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"sonicgabe" (gabeloewenberg)
05/25/2016 at 15:27 • Filed to: None

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DISCUSSION (39)

DrJohannVegas > sonicgabe
05/25/2016 at 15:34

Kinja'd!!!

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Ash78, voting early and often > sonicgabe
05/25/2016 at 15:34

I heard Gawker might actually have to cut the staff of their Bestiality sub-blog from 12 people down to 11, plus maybe an intern. They're thinking about firing the guy who said he though Bernie Sanders was a little too extreme for US politics.

Dru > sonicgabe
05/25/2016 at 15:35

Well, it's been nice knowing you folks.

qbeezy > sonicgabe
05/25/2016 at 15:37

They definitely deserve it. It suck for Jalopnik and Kotaku, but they definitely deserve it.

scoob > Ash78, voting early and often
05/25/2016 at 15:38

Quick, somebody create an account with a blog URL of bestiality.kinja.com!

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > DrJohannVegas
05/25/2016 at 15:39

I’ve gotta say, I see an argument for amassing like a whole gig worth of Randy Savage gifs. Not that I would do that. (I would totally do that.)

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > sonicgabe
05/25/2016 at 15:39

What this means is we have to drive up Jalopnik’s page views so when they have to start cutting blogs. It’s not one of them.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > DrJohannVegas
05/25/2016 at 15:40

Talk shit, get hit.

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Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > sonicgabe
05/25/2016 at 15:41

We have to build an internet ark for the oppos to float away from the hulkpocalypse on.

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > sonicgabe
05/25/2016 at 15:41

Hopefully we can Oppo group buy the kinja platform when it hits the police auction and save our little slice of heaven here.

sonicgabe > qbeezy
05/25/2016 at 15:43

I don’t think they deserve it. I’ve read a lot of the case and articles from various major media outlets about it. Heck, it’s now come out that Hogan is probably a surrogate for someone else who has an axe to grind against Gawker. Even if that connection isn’t what it seems, Hogan is only trying to cover up all his bullshit to protect his “brand”. It’ll get appealed until it has no where else to go. This is far from over.

boredalways > qbeezy
05/25/2016 at 15:47

I think you should give this a read: http://gawker.com/reports-tech-b…

BigBlock440 > sonicgabe
05/25/2016 at 15:47

That someone has an ax to grind for a reason, part of the reason they deserve it.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > sonicgabe
05/25/2016 at 15:50

I don’t like either party, all I know is posting unauthorised sex tapes is a shitty thing to do.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > qbeezy
05/25/2016 at 15:52

You forget that it sucks for us too. If gawker goes away so does Oppo.

DrJohannVegas > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
05/25/2016 at 15:56

That person has some real solid, high-quality Macho Man gifs.

Bourbon&JellyBeans > sonicgabe
05/25/2016 at 16:01

Kinja'd!!!

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > boredalways
05/25/2016 at 16:01

Doesn’t really matter if somebody else is bankrolling Hulks attorneys. They’re only paying his lawyer fees, not bribing jurors or the judge.

His Stigness > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
05/25/2016 at 16:17

Did you see the post the other day here about that, it was Xylo I think. Jalopnik ranks way near the bottom, and Kinja itself either ranks one below Jalopnik, or actually one above it. So they are SUPER low on the totem poll in terms of popularity.

boredalways > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
05/25/2016 at 16:20

I would say yes and no. Sure it’s completely legal for 3rd party funding.

As ugly as details are, this has to be the shadiest and shakiest judgment against 1st Amendment rights ever. Gawker has the legal right to continue fighting this and should. A change of venue would be best. Thiel is doing this for ulterior motives and both Forbes and the New York Times question it. Right now he’s just bleeding them dry slowly.

Plus you have this tidbit from the NYT story:

“Questions about the independence of Mr. Bollea, who never mentioned a third-party backer, first emerged when his lawyer removed a claim from his complaint that had the effect of eliminating Gawker’s insurance company from the case. That struck many legal observers as odd, given that most lawyers seeking large payouts want to include claims that are insured against because doing so increases the chances of a settlement."

legacyGT08 > sonicgabe
05/25/2016 at 16:21

They deserve it 100%. Denton is a *money-grubbing* (fixed) sociopath - watch his interviews. Guy’s view of reality is hilariously out of touch. Oppo & Jalop need to break off from the shit hole that is Gawker.

qbeezy > boredalways
05/25/2016 at 16:22

Still shouldn’t have posted a sex tape. Him being involved doesn’t make what they did any better

qbeezy > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
05/25/2016 at 16:24

Of course I’ll be sad, but shit happens, like this. We’ll find something else if it comes to that.

boredalways > qbeezy
05/25/2016 at 16:30

that’s actually yes and no also. sure it was unethical if you will, but not illegal.

And still isn’t illegal. No current or former Gawker employee has been arrested over it.

Also, Gawker wasn’t the only place to see the video (I saw it on LiveLeak), so why just single one company out?

MultiplaOrgasms > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
05/25/2016 at 16:32

Why don’t we just take Oppo and push it somewhere else?

haveacarortwoorthree2 > qbeezy
05/25/2016 at 16:34

I’d bet good money that the verdict eventually gets tossed on appeal. Unsavory to post excerpts of the tape? Most probably would say yes. Unlawful to do so? Nope.

sonicgabe > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
05/25/2016 at 16:34

It might be shitty, but what Gawker did is not illegal or libelous. It’s not just about the sex on the tape, this led to the whole Hogan saying the n-word thing that cost him lots of income. His skeletons got dragged out and he’s crying foul. I have no sympathy for him. Maybe I’m just jaded because I live in St Pete (and Tampa before that), so we’ve been dealing with Hogan, Bubba, their pals, and all their bullshit for so long. He’s a douche and brought this on himself. And he totally knew he was being taped.

qbeezy > boredalways
05/25/2016 at 16:40

Why single them out? Cause they got caught. What they did was shit. Illegal or not, I don’t know, but it was fucked up.

qbeezy > haveacarortwoorthree2
05/25/2016 at 16:43

Still a shitty thing to do. But it is Gawker.

boredalways > qbeezy
05/25/2016 at 16:52

And?

If the world was as black and white as you think it is or should be, we all would have been sued at least once for what we post online because at least one person would have thought it was unjust.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > boredalways
05/25/2016 at 16:53

I don’t think this is a 1st Amendment issue because even the 1st Amendment has it’s limits. You can’t yell fire in a crowded theater and you can’t distribute a video of a private citizen when they believed they had a certain expectation to privacy and they weren’t committing any crime. Same reason why posting revenge porn is becoming a crime, this video isn’t in the public interest. If it were a video of a congressman having sex with a lobbyist while they discuss bribes for new laws he’s going to try pass, then sure it’s totally protected by the 1st Amendment. This video is of a dude banging another guys wife while that guys films it, the only thing of public interest here is public rubbernecking at this train wreck of a situation and I’m sorry but even celebrities have a right to a certain level of privacy. This video is more in lines of The Fappening, it’s a gross invasion of privacy and Gawker fucked up by picking this hill to die on.

Of course Thiel has ulterior motives, he’s getting revenge for Gawker outing him back in 2007 (again for a company with a blog that claims to be a “champion” of the LGBT community to do that is pretty fucking reprehensible) and it really doesn’t matter what his motives are, he’s doing something that is literally an industry within the legal world. It’s called Lawsuit Finance and there are companies that specialize in floating money for plaintiffs to take defendants to court with the company getting a cut of the judgment at the end.

qbeezy > boredalways
05/25/2016 at 17:09

And? See I can do it too. How in the hell did this turn into a black and white thing? You don’t know shit about me.

That's gonna leave a mark! > sonicgabe
05/25/2016 at 17:09

So says the judge.

boredalways > qbeezy
05/25/2016 at 17:29

Sorry, that was not my intent.

I hope you understand that I’m not necessarily disagreeing with the points thst you are making. My intent is to point out things that should be considered and reassesed instead of a counterargument.

I will say this: if thus judgment stands, it sets a very bad precedent for freedom of speech and a free and uncensored internet in the U.S.

Also may I add something to what you said about Gawker deserving it:

1) I’ve only served on a jury for a criminal case. The responsibility of picking jurors is held by both prosecutors and defendants. They both have to agree on who will be on the jury. If its the same on civil cases, then Gawker’s lawyers fucked up by allowing idiots on the jury.

2) AJ Daulerio is a fucking immature moron and I personally blame him for Gawker’s current state for making that stupid quip during the trial about posting videos of kids as young as 4 if it’s newsworthy (or whatever the hell he said). He’s in his 40's and still acts like a frat boy.

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > His Stigness
05/25/2016 at 21:49

It’s interesting that we think Jalopnik would be the first to get cut, but what would actually probably happen is Jalopnik gets sold for a decent price rather than shutting it down.

His Stigness > Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
05/25/2016 at 21:53

Why would anyone buy a website which gets no traffic, though?

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > His Stigness
05/25/2016 at 22:21

Jalopnik gets more traffic than any other automotive website, as far as I have searched. They even have a Brazilian off-shoot. jalopnik.com.br

His Stigness > Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
05/25/2016 at 22:23

And I think we can both agree that traffic is thanks to click bait bullshit.

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > His Stigness
05/25/2016 at 22:25

Even then, the closest another website gets is caranddriver.com.

All the rest are eons away.